Oran Hardin of John R. Hardin and Unclassified
The Mysterious John R. Hardin -- Summary and Background
Much ink has been used in the last quarter century by Oran Hardin (1923-2010), founder of the defunct Hardin Family Association, and by his associates and friends, in the quarterly journal "Harden-in-ing Family Association Newsletter." The result has been travel from the unknown in a circle back to the unknown, with people citing each other as sources. I've done some of that, thinking others must be experts. But often they were traveling in the circle. Now, due to the increasing availability of records through the effort of the LDS Church and others, and importantly through DNA testing, we are now in a position to begin to cite more original sources and claim more certainty. I attempt to do that on this Web site.
Without many original sources, the family of Oran Hardin (descendant
of James Hardin b. ~1800) depended heavily on the 1934 publication
Hardin Family Tree 1729-1934
by J R Hardin , published 1934, describes the family of James Hardin b. 1800. Unfortunately his work, though sincere, is mostly sourceless. He depends on family members' memories.
Please notify me if you can't access the Mullings site and I will post a mirror.
It was claimed in 1934, and continues to be claimed, that the
Hardins in the row of counties in far north Alabama and adjacent
Tennessee counties including Lincoln and Franklin, are descended from
John R. Hardin, who supposedly married his second wife, had two
children, and subsequently died in Rowan County, North Carolina.
The second wife's name is claimed to be Mary Ann Nevin who married in
Salisbury, N.C. in 1799. The first wife is admittedly unknown.
Here is the oldest "source", which are pedigree sheets collected by
Yates Publishing beginning in 1972 and indexed by Ancestry.com as "U.S.
and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900"
Name: Mary Ann Nevin
Birth Year: 1767
Spouse Name: John R Hardin
Spouse Birth Year: 1729
Number Pages: 1
The oldest "source" for John R. Hardin lists the wrong parents. The father is not of the I1 DNA type. It's in Ancestry.com's "Family Date Collection -- Individual Records":
Name: John R Hardin
Spouse: Mary Ann Nevin
Parents: Robert Hardin, Mrs Hardin
Birth Place: North, NC
Birth Date: 1759
Marriage Place: Salisbury, Rowan County, NC
Marriage Date: 1799
Death Place: Rowan County, NC
Death Date: 1810
Claimed sons of second wife
He is the head of the north Alabama and south Tennessee family (which includes the HFA founder and researcher ORAN HARDIN, born Marshall County, Alabama). A good deal of documentation has been found, but I see no evidence of who his parents were. Said born 1800.
Said born in Rowan County in 1802, he settled in Kentucky with wife Mary Carter and had six sons and five daughters. A daughter, Mary "Polly" Hardin married her first cousin, John Roland Hardin, son of James Hardin, near Wolf River, southern Kentucky, and settled in New Market, Madison County, Alabama.
Claimed sons of the first wife
John Hardin is documented, but not his parents. He served in
the 2nd regiment of Tennessee Militia from 1 Jan 1813 to April. He
volunteered from Huntsville, Alabama, then Mississippi Territory. He
was discharged at Fayetville, Tennessee. He was awarded land in Elyton,
Alabama, near the future Birmingham, Alabama. He had 13 children and
died at age 87 in 1874 (b. 1787). On 13 Aug 1813 he married Nancy
Johnson in Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama. She was born 1793 in
South Carolina. The 1850 census for Jefferson County, Five Mile
district, shows John Hardin, age 63 (b. 1787), laborer, born
in NC. He was living with Pleasant G. Hardin, 23, (b. 1828) b.
Ala. And with Nancy, 57 (b. 1793), b. SC.
John Hardin's descendants lived in Jefferson County, Ala., and also
the descendants of half-brother JAMES HARDIN in north Alabama.
It is supposed by Mulllings that he was born about 1789.
It is supposed by Mullings
that he was born in 1791. Perhaps this is the Moses Hardin shown as
ancestor of test kit #260009 at hhhdna.com
I1 Hardin in the family under discussion). His researchers named at
that site show: Moses born bet 1780-1790; died bet 1841-1849 Tennessee;
married 1801 NC to Sophia Hise b. bet 1780-90 NC, died bet. 1841-49
Tennessee. They had a son named Hiram H. Hardin born about 1802
in North Carolina, died 1853 Tennessee.
Maryland Ancestry Discovered Invalid by DNA
Robert Harding of Talbott County, Maryland > Joseph C. Harding of Talbott County, Maryland > Robert Hardin of Talbott County and of Rowan/Iredell County, North Carolina.
The above names form a lineage, but they are not, as has been
claimed, the ancestor line of John R. Hardin or of any I1 Hardin in
Invalidity of John R. Hardin
This researcher (Travis Hardin) has in 15 years found no
documentation of the existence of a John R. Hardin or of his being a
father to James or John Hardin (above) - who are documented - or of any
evidence of a Green or Moses Hardin (but see a Moses here). I have not looked into the
Kentucky Robert Hardin or affirmed him as a part of the I1 Hardin
For the past 30 years some dedicated amateur genealogists, led by
Oran Hardin of the now dormant Hardin Family Association, have
published some detailed information that may be genuine but whose
source has not been shared in print. The family story about a Dutch
Bible rings true, and may have been once know by someone who passed on
without sharing their knowledge.Looking for proof today, we come up
short of being able to say whether an undocumented statement is true or
whether it has been invented. Many trees lead back to John R. Hardin. I
would be pleased to receive tips on where to find evidence, even
circumstantial, for the existence of John R. Hardin, or whoever
is the father of the five boys above: James, Robert, John, Green, and
Lincoln County, Tenn - John W. Hardin 1854-1932 - unknown family
John W. Hardin died 2 Oct 1932 in Shreveport, Caddo, Louisiana, age
78. He was a white male whose birthplace was Lincoln County,
Tennessee in 1854. His father's name is stated as William Hardin. We
can be confident that Mrs. William Hardin lived in Lincoln County in
A mystery family who is put temporarily on the Oran Hardin page.
(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F33B-2HJ : accessed 14 March 2016), William Hardin in entry for John W Hardin, 02 Oct 1932; citing Shreveport, Caddo, Louisiana, certificate number 10803, State Archives, Baton Rouge; FHL microfilm 2,392,643.
John T. Hardin 1820-1850 -- unknown family
This small family of Hardins in eastern Limestone County,
Alabama purports to begin with William Hardin and wife Martha
"Patty" Malone, possibly of Virginia and born soon enough to sire
John Hardin (1783-1855), who married Martha (1787-1839), and
second Susanna Jane Milhous (1801-1861). John Hardin (b. 1783) was born
in Virginia, according to the 1850 Limestone County census. He lived
alone in 1850.
One of John's sons was John T. Hardin (1820-1850, died age 30). He
married Susannah E. Mitchell. From the land grants another son appears
to have been William Hardin. William was born 1818 in Tennessee,
according to the 1850 Limestone County census. His wife Susan was born
1826 in Alabama.
Beside the older William and Martha Hardin listing I wrote "Circuit Court Minutes 1824-1825."
A Ransford F. Hardin, b.1817 in North Carolina was also in Limestone
County in 1850. His wife was Nancy, born 1823 in Kentucky. "Hunting for
Bears" reports Nancy B Garrison married Ransford F Hardin 26 Mar 1842
in Limestone County, Alabama. By 1860 the family was in Monroe County,
Arkansas, and in 1870.
from Findagrave.com, seven graves, the entire census of Hardin Cemetery, Limestone County, Alabama Coordinates: 34.91670 N, -86.80560W
Christian C. 63877791
b. 1833 d. Dec. 5, 1891
Sarah Jane Hardin 154860597
b. Dec. 9, 1928 d. Nov. 10, 2015
b. Apr. 20, 1783 d. Jan. 4, 1855
Son of William Hardin/Harding and Martha "Patty" Malone.
Spouses: Martha Harding (1787 - 1839)*
Susanna Jane Milhous Hardin (1801 - 1861)*
John T. Hardin (1820 - 1850)*
John T. 43962059
b. Nov. 8, 1820, Limestone County, Ala.
d. Dec. 1, 1850 "Age 30"
Son of John and Martha Hardin
Husband of Susannah "Susan" E. (Mitchell) Hardin
John Hardin (1783 - 1855)
Martha Harding (1787 - 1839)
Susannah E. Mitchell Williamson (____ - 1861)*
b. May 18, 1787 d. Oct. 21, 1839
Spouse: John Hardin (1783-1855)
John T. Hardin (1820 - 1850)*
Norman L. 23448877
b. unknown d. Dec. 15, 2007
Mrs Susannah E. "Susan" Mitchell 43962134
b. unknown d. 1861
Daughter of Elizabeth Milhouse Mitchell
1st, John T. Hardin
2nd, William T. Williamson ~ Sep 17, 1857, Madison Co., Alabama
Spouse John T. Hardin (1820 - 1850)
Land grant records at the Bureau
of Land Management for Hardin, Limestone County.
|AL1260__.353||HARDIN, JOHN||9/10/1834||5508||AL||Huntsville||001S - 004W||N½NE¼||4||Limestone|
|AL3640__.246||HARDIN, WILLIAM||8/1/1849||13388||AL||Huntsville||001S - 004W||SW¼NW¼||12||Limestone|
|AL3650__.456||HARDEN, WILLIAM||4/1/1850||14110||AL||Huntsville||001S - 004W||NW¼NW¼||12||Limestone|
In the 1850 census John Hardin, age 67, is living alone
in district 3 of Limestone County, Ala. He was a farmer and owned
property worth $2000. He was born
in Virginia (calculated 1783).
He had nine slaves, all male. The 80-acre grant to John Hardin in 1834
was adjacent to the Tennessee line and included what is now Ardmore,
John T. Hardin in the 1850 slave census lived in 2nd regiment 33,
Madison County, Ala. He had eight slaves. I can't find him in the 1850
census otherwise. According to trees and findagrave.com, John T. Hardin died at age 30 on 1 Dec.
1850 at Wooley Springs, Limestone County. Location of the
community is at the east end of Wooley Springs Road at Little Limestone
54' 10" North, 86° 47' 30" West according to maplandia.com. The Hardin
Cemetery is 1.22 miles northwest of the Wooley Springs community.
William Hardin in 1850 lived
in district 3 of Limestone County. He was a farmer born in Tennessee,
32 (calculated born 1818). His
wife was Susan, 24, b. Ala., with a son, James S. Hardin, 8, b. Ala.
Adjacent to WIlliam at family no. 183 is James F. Hardin, 27 (b. 1823 in Tenn.),
Sarah Hardin, 48 (perhaps a mother or unmarried older sister), born
Tenn., a boy Sanford, 14, a girl Elander, 10, and a girl Babe, 7. All
children born in Ala.
William Hardin was granted 40 acres in 1849. It is at the site of the present Tillery Cemetery under a present-day high-tension line 1/2 mile west of the Madison County line. In 1850 William was granted 40 additional acres at the southeast corner of what are now Old Schoolhouse Road and Elkwood Section Road, just north of Davis Branch. The land almost adjoined the present state highway 53, the Huntsville-to-Ardmore Road, on its east. The latter property was cater-cornered to the first, with the west boundary of the latter being Old Schoolhouse Road.