White Family DNA

When I went searching the genealogy information on the Web for the best match for J. W. White's Y-DNA test results several years ago, I located close matches in the Elder family -- a 34 and even a 35 out of 37 match. It was only by chance that that Elder family chose to test and post their tests. Likewise, it was by chance that in the fall of 2013 I was made aware of the posting of tests for two men with surname White.

A descendant of Archibald White (1718-1800) of Cabarrus County, NC, was a 36 in 37 match with J.W. White, my living uncle and grandson of James White. A one-step mismatch with the same last name indicates a certainty of kinship. The results can be compared at  www.familytreedna.com/public/white/default.aspx?vgroup=white&section=ycolorized. (When you view that page, select Markers=YDNA37 and search for kit number 76558. You may have to go to the third page to find it.) A second match with only a distance of two is also shown. The ancestor is J. M. White. My contact from that family says she is known to be related to Archibald White, but more distantly.  A genealogy containing Archibald White, by Thana White Cottrell, is at tcottrell.com/twc/index.htm .

The haplogroup is given as R-M269, formerly known as r1b1b2.

William White adopted James White (as related to me by John Connor White on 20 May 2011). Whoever was the father of James White was with Mary in 1860 or 61. On October 15, 1860, William White (the youngest son of Adolphus) had just turned 16 and lived in Paulding County and is unlikely to be the father of James White, though it might be possible he had a fling at the encouragement of Yancey before joining the army. Yancey White, a believed relative of William White (having the same Y-DNA), lived conveniently in Livingston District, Floyd County. Yancey is a man whose life history points to his tendency to take advantage of women -- white, mulatto, and black.It does not necessarily follow that the father of James was also the father of Mary's elder child, Josephine Adams.


Results of the 23andme.com DNA Test of Travis Hardin, 2014

The company claims the pie charts represent the combined ancestry of your mother and your father.

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If my great-great grandmother Mary Adams White ( grandmother of Ausie White and known mulatto slave) was 100% African, and if there is but one African in my ancestry, the test would yield 6.25% Sub-Saharan African. Instead it is 1.3%, close to the 1.56% I would expect if Mary's GRANDMOTHER were 100% African. Mary Adams White passed as white, so it is reasonable to propose, and consistent with the 23 and me data, that her grandmother was the last full African, and that Mary's grandmother's and mother's partners were white men. We know Mary's partner was a white man, a man named White. Mary's grandmother would have been born about 1800 and may have been of the Dioula people. Faso means "fatherland" in Dioula. The Dyula (Dioula or Juula) are a Mande ethnic group inhabiting several West African countries, including the Mali, Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, Burkina Faso, and Guinea-Bissau.

The West African designation refers to people who lived in that area once called the Slave Coast, as the map shows. This evidence agrees with what is known on the ground -- that there is one African slave ancestor. The other 98.6% of this writer's tested autosomal DNA is European.

An Untold Roots Story?

In summary, two stories handed down orally for five generations or more tell us of a woman from the Dioula people in the African region of Burkino Faso who impressed upon her daughter and her descendants the importance of remembering the home she was taken away from! Fasue equals Faso equals "The Dioula people." The story came down from James White to Melvin White to Theoria White  and her sisters, then to me and my cousin Larry Dixon and to Melvin's son John Connor White, to name the only three I've heard speak of the story.

THE Y-DNA TEST RESULTS OF J. W. WHITE AND WHAT IT TELLS ABOUT THE WHITE FAMILY

The MT-DNA Test Results of Travis Hardin Showing Haplotype of Lovia Lane White Female Line

by Travis Hardin – Meridianville, Alabama, May 2017

Several years ago, at my request, J. W. White sent a cheek swab to the FamilyTreeDNA.com labs in Houston for a 37-marker Y-DNA test. J. W. White's Y-DNA test results .The test was designed to show the similarity, or genetic closeness, between two men, usually with the same surname. That is, a close similarity indicates a recent common ancestor between the two men. The likelihood is expressed in statistical odds of a common ancestor a stated number of generations back. The test is for paternity. The DNA being on the Y chromosome, it is passed only from father to son. Therefore it reveals information only about the paternal line, including in the near time frame what the likely surname is, and in the distant one what the human family or haplogroup is. See FTDNA Learning Center.


J. W. has kindly shared the test results with me. His paternity is of haplogroup R1B1B2, shown on the map as western European. Many Scots are r1b1b2. A descendant of Archibald White (1718-1800) of Cabarrus County, NC, was a 36 in 37 match with J.W. White. A genealogy containing Archibald White, by Thana White Cottrell, is at tcottrell.com/twc/index.htm. DNA results for some of their descendants can be found at the White project at FTDNA (as detailed at Results and Comparisons) or at YSEARCH.org and matches J.W. White with a distance of one, proving kinship. See white-wm.htm on this site for more details.

VIEWING J. W. WHITE'S RESULTS AND COMPARISONS

A. FAMILYTREEDNA.COM
Click Login. Enter kit# or user name: 76558 or James William White. For password (if needed) please call Travis Hardin at 256-683-8038. After gaining access, at upper left of Web page you will see My Project Groups, which will include WHITE and ELDER. Click on a surname. Click on “Y DNA Results.” To locate J.W. White's results in the list, search on Kit# 76558 or “White – Georgia” He is in the R1b group. Compare his results to others using the interpretation instructions below.

B. YSEARCH.ORG

This site delivers up automatic matches without laborious searching. Tests are submitted voluntarily by people testing at all labs, and not all tested relatives' names are listed here. It a a great place to start.
Click “Search for Genetic Matches.” Enter User ID # 2JVPS for J.W. White. Enter search parameters. A recommended beginning is “Show users that tested at least 25 of the markers that I did.”
“Allow a maximum genetic distance of 5.”
“Do not limit search by last name.”
Type in the anti-bot phrases. Do not limit search by haplotype or region at first. Click SEARCH.

You will find J.W. White, 2JVPS, at the top and at least two matches with a genetic distance of 2 in 25. However a count of differences shows a genetic distance of 3. Consult the 25-marker table below and make your own judgment about the relatedness of our family to ELDER, WHITE. and others. In the future you might find others who tested 37 markers, as did J.W. White. Then consult the 37-marker chart.

To see which markers are mismatching as suggested in the 25-marker table, go back to the FamilyTreeDNA site above and click on a surname. Find the matching records there and observe if the markers differ in the pattern suggested by Ysearch.org.


Use the tables below with White Y-DNA results










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The mtDNA Test Results of Travis Hardin and What it Tells About the Ancestors of Lovia Lane White
by Travis Hardin – Meridianville, Alabama, May 2009

Several years ago, Travis Hardin (grandson of Lovia Lane White) sent a cheek swab to the FamilyTreeDNA.com labs in Houston for a mitochondrial DNA test. To quote that Web site, “An mtDNA test looks at your female-inherited mitochondrial DNA. Because mtDNA is passed from a mother to her children with no input from any spouses along the way, this test will look at your direct maternal line only ... The mtDNA tests provide information regarding the single origin of your direct maternal line.”

This test defines the large human family, or mitochondrial haplogroup, of my mother Theoria White Hardin, her mother Lovia Lane White, her mother Jo Ella Johnson Lane, and any of their direct female ancestors and descendants. The test has no value in directly determining historic relatives – only pre-historic. The test could be useful if the subject wants to exclude the possibility of maternal kinship for a certain person who also has been tested. The test could also prove a paper trail incorrect. However an identical result with someone else does not prove a relationship; it only proves they have a common female ancestor who could have lived as far back as thousands of years. An mtDNA test of a direct female descendant of Josephine Adams (Jim White's sister) -- or the son of a direct female descendant -- (if her descendants can be located) can prove or disprove the African origin of the mother of Mary Adams, whose name, importantly, is said by family history (James White > Melvin White > Theoria White > Travis Hardin) to be Fasue or Fasu.

My tested mtDNA Haplogroup is “K” as shown on the certificate here.

mtDNA Certificate for Travis Hardin

Accessing the data on line is similar to the methods described under J.W. White. Browse to www.familytreedna.com Use Kit # 27191. It it's needed call Travis for the password. After sign in, click at the left on the “K” project, or on mtDNA “Matches”, “Ancestral origins”, or “Results.”

The corresponding search of voluntary mtDNA submissions can be done at Mitosearch.org. The user name is tsp2c. If the password is needed call Travis Hardin.

Mitosearch Migration Map on line Local copy (PDF)

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